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Old 07-27-2015, 04:22 PM
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I'm kinda frustrated by it that people now group Poland together with countries like Czechia, Slovakia, Germany and Belgium as territories known for their beer, when traditionally we were until very recently much more like Ukraine, Belarus and Russia in that vodka was the most popular.
I would have never guessed, that Vodka originated from Poland, if you had never said so in previous threads. I always though that Vodka came from the Russians (huge stereotype right there ). When it comes down to linking, a country, with what type of liquor its people drinks: I never really had a clue with what Polish people drank. Now, though, I have a better understanding; but if I had not know that Poland was the birthplace of Vodka, I could have made a stereotypical-educated-guess and related beer with more "Western-type" countries, wine with Italy, sake with Asian cultures, and vodka with most every country that would remain in the Easter hemisphere.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:37 PM
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Who needs a special phone to listen to police signals, my Action Man walkie talkies when I wasfive picked up police radio. My dad, being a police officer, reported this and they were never quite sure how to fix this
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:57 AM
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I would have never guessed, that Vodka originated from Poland, if you had never said so in previous threads. I always though that Vodka came from the Russians (huge stereotype right there ).
It's an understandable stereotype though since vodka has been a part of Russian culture for centuries. The same applies to Ukraine and Belarus, to a lesser extent the Baltic countries of Lithuania and Latvia, and finally Finland, Estonia and parts of Scandinavia (Sweden and Norway). The problem with saying that vodka originated from Russia is that there is little to no historical evidence to back it up. As far as I'm aware, the oldest Russian document on the topic (from 1533) refers to "водка" as a medicinal drink bought from Polish merchants. The production of vodka was present in Poland for several hundred years earlier, with the earliest available written Polish source referencing "wódka" in 1405, but there are even older Polish sources that speak of "gorzałka" or "okowita" (Old Polish names for vodka).

Many believe that the technology of distilling stronger alcoholic beverages arrived in Poland in the 1200s, via Arabic merchants. It was there that it was first used to distil vodka using grain (so, like most other European inventions, something new was created using technology that already existed in the Middle East). Some people say that vodka was invented in Poland even earlier than that, but most of the sources they provide seem to be rubbish that someone made up. In any case, it was natural that the Ruthenians (now Belarusians and Ukrainians) were next to start making vodka since for many times throughout history they shared a state with the Poles due to Polish imperialist aspirations and the union with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. And then, through well-established trade routes, the drink found its way to Russia. It began to spread to Northern Europe as well, mainly due to Polish trade and Russian conquests (plus the Swedes had their fun ransacking the Commonwealth during the Deluge).

By the 19th century, vodka had already been well-known for hundreds of years in Eastern Europe and parts of Northern Europe, but it only really became popular in Western Europe and Northern America around the first half of the 20th century, and that was to a large extent thanks to Russian owners of private distilleries who emigrated to the US and other countries following the October Revolution to continue their business there. So I guess that is the main reason why, at least in the English-speaking world, vodka is still more often associated with Russia than Poland. Why I know any of this is because I too once thought that vodka came from Russia. When I first heard that it came from Poland, I decided to read up on it to see whether it wasn't just bullshit and I learned all this.

There was actually an effort made to highlight the real origins of vodka by Poles in the 1980s I believe, but at that time we were still politically, economically and militarily dependent on the USSR so any official claims were quickly dropped (just as nowadays you don't see the Polish government criticising US foreign policy or use of CIA prisons on Polish land). Vice did a pretty cool two-part documentary about this, which you can watch and . They do go a bit over-the-top with bashing the Soviet Union at one point and disregarding the fact that it actually helped turn Poland into a modern capitalist economy (as opposed to what happened much earlier with the partitions of the 18th century, when parts of Poland that were absorbed by the Russian Empire kinda devolved), but they got most of their history right otherwise.

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When it comes down to linking, a country, with what type of liquor its people drinks: I never really had a clue with what Polish people drank. Now, though, I have a better understanding; but if I had not know that Poland was the birthplace of Vodka, I could have made a stereotypical-educated-guess and related beer with more "Western-type" countries, wine with Italy, sake with Asian cultures, and vodka with most every country that would remain in the Easter hemisphere.
It's pretty easy to figure out, just look at the climate of each country (and, obviously, its history). Southern Europe (Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal, parts of France) have a Mediterranean climate, so they have perfect conditions for growing grapes to make wine. Greece's equivalent to vodka is ouzo, which is made using anise that is native to the Mediterranean region and Southwest Asia. France has absinthe, Italy has Sambuca and arak is popular in the Middle East, all of which are also made using anise. Some of the Southeastern European countries (former Yugoslav states, Albania, Bulgaria and Romania) are too known for wine production, though their regional specialty is rakia – a type of fruit brandy that can be made from grapes as well as plums or other fruits from slightly colder climates (hence slivovitsa – made from plums – is widespread not only in the Balkans, but Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia and Poland too).

On the other hand, Eastern Europe has a more humid continental climate. Countries like Belarus, Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania or European Russia may have fairly warm summers, but they are mild in comparison to Southern European temperatures plus their winters are harsh and often quite snowy, making wine production unrealistic. However, the climate and some of the soil there is ideal for growing cereal grains. As such, well up until the early 20th century, most of these countries still relied on agriculture and grain exports to keep their economies going and thus vodka was the ideal alcoholic beverage to make under the regional conditions. Even in colder parts of Russia, winter wheat can be used to make vodka. Plus, due to how warm it makes you feel (though your body temperature doesn’t actually increase), vodka is just really nice to drink during a freezing winter.

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Who needs a special phone to listen to police signals, my Action Man walkie talkies when I wasfive picked up police radio.
That must have been pretty fun, especially if you got to listen in on any car chases or anything like that.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:42 PM
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Here the other day I had a sip of my Malibu Coconut Rum Liquour, but it tastes awful. Because of this, I got a real craving for Coconut, so I went to the store, bought a coconut, drilled two holes in it, and drank the contents before I ate some of it.
Next day I bought three coconuts at the grocery, but one was moldy and the other two looked like zombie-brains, and the coconut-water was yellow and sour.
So today I went to a local small Asian vegetable/miscellaneous store and bought four coconuts, all four were perfect with a lot of juice in them. I made a drink with crushed ice out of the coconut-water. I blended and shaked a lot of coconut-meat with a bit of water until it was almost like a puree, then I sifted and squeezed it over into a cup, and guess what I got? Thick, white delicious coconut-milk, like the ones you buy in cans, only better! And last but not least, some thin slices of coconut-meat are now drying in a drying-machine for some hours, so tomorrow I'll have dried coconut-snacks. Yummy!
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Old 07-29-2015, 03:30 PM
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Haha, nice, coconuts are great. Malibu liqueur is very sweet, so I'm not surprised you didn't like it. I once mistook it for actual rum when I was younger and was at first shocked by how different it tasted.

Your coconut story makes me want to try making coconut vodka (by steeping coconuts in grain spirit and maybe adding a bit of sugar). I once tried it with mushrooms and it ended up tasting pretty bad. I'm sure I've already mentioned this on the forum before.
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I never thought, that a drink,could cause so much fluster between two nations. Then again, some say the World War I started because one guy was, at the wrong place, at the wrong time as he decided to pause, for a moment, and eat a sandwich . The Vodka videos were fun to watch and also funny . I really thought it was cool (and funny) how it showed that Russia has a pseudo Lenin and Stalin, walking around, at the Red Square so you could take a picture with them . That was some good insight into the origins of Vodka topic, Bamul. Thanks.

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True, that technology has been around for a long time now anyway. I was impressed with how Skaara's brother, was able to figure out, how to turn of the screens at the movie theater. As for your walkie talkies: I believe the problem could have simply been fixed by replacing the radio crystal in which the walkie talkies operated on. There are many different radio crystals out there, and many of them work off of many different frequencies. Really, anyone could get a hold of radio crystals and simply un-plug and insert, or un-solder and re-solder (depending on how the walkie talkie is set up) and just try out different ones to see what type of conversations you can pick up. You could listen in and interrupt drive-through restaurants, police radios, secret agent radios (), and everything else. Heck, I've even read that you can take, one of the radio crystals, from inside of a modern-day toaster (for bread). Either the police officials over there thought that nobody would decide to use a weak frequency and decided to by cheap radio crystals; or the manufactures of your Action Man walkie talkies bought some quality equipment. Here's a picture on how the crystals could look like:


Coconuts: Licious. I found out that, an easy way to spot mold, on a coconut, is to see if there are any grey, black, purple, bluish spots (no matter how light) on the three, distinct circles on a coconut (it also works if there's even a light hue from the colors mentioned). If you see any, there's mold (at least from what I've seen). The reason is that those circle points are the softest points, on the outer shell, of a coconut; so it's easy for the mold to show up on there first (meaning that all the mold, from the inside, has begun to push its way out...gross). Also, I found that that easiest way to get the coconut milk is to pierce through those circles as well. It might be faster with a drill; but, survival wise, you could get a knife, a screw driver, or an ice pick (or anything that's pointy) and easily go through the outer shell. That's how I've always done it .
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Interesting stuff about radios... and coconuts too, I knew about how to open a coconut and all, but I had no idea that there's such an easy way of telling whether it's gone bad.
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Vodka always seemed like a Poland thing to me. They're always drinking it in the Witcher games. :P
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Haha, nice, coconuts are great. Malibu liqueur is very sweet, so I'm not surprised you didn't like it. I once mistook it for actual rum when I was younger and was at first shocked by how different it tasted.

Your coconut story makes me want to try making coconut vodka (by steeping coconuts in grain spirit and maybe adding a bit of sugar). I once tried it with mushrooms and it ended up tasting pretty bad. I'm sure I've already mentioned this on the forum before.
That's exactly what I did when I bought it. I just read "Coconut Rum.... -OH BOY, GOTTA BUY THIS!" *Comes home and reads it again* "Coconut Rum-liquour...." *facepalm*. It's indeed very very sweet, but that's not what's the problem. It even has an alright coconut-taste, but there's this other weird artificial indescribable taste that is just friggen horrible.

But oh boy, mushroom-vodka, that does sound horrible But the coconut-vodka thing could probably work. I found a recipe on the interwebs on how to make coconut-essence, by just putting some coconut in vodka and letting it stay for some time.

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Coconuts: Licious. I found out that, an easy way to spot mold, on a coconut, is to see if there are any grey, black, purple, bluish spots (no matter how light) on the three, distinct circles on a coconut (it also works if there's even a light hue from the colors mentioned). If you see any, there's mold (at least from what I've seen). The reason is that those circle points are the softest points, on the outer shell, of a coconut; so it's easy for the mold to show up on there first (meaning that all the mold, from the inside, has begun to push its way out...gross). Also, I found that that easiest way to get the coconut milk is to pierce through those circles as well. It might be faster with a drill; but, survival wise, you could get a knife, a screw driver, or an ice pick (or anything that's pointy) and easily go through the outer shell. That's how I've always done it .
Interesting about being able to tell if they're moldy, 'cause it does make sense as those three circles are indeed the thinnest/softest spots. I just never knew about that. Thanks, now I know what to look for next time I buy some coconuts! As for opening the coconut, I too used something sharp to poke the holes open, but it's a bit of work, and the water runs slowly. Using a drill will just cut big open holes, and it's quick and doesn't require any use of muscles *doing it the Skaara way*. After emptying them, I just whacked them with the nail-pulling-end of a hammer until they cracked open pretty neatly. I also saw a video on youtube, demonstrating how you can freeze them, then gently hit them everywhere on the shell before cracking it open, and the brown solid skin that is between the shell and the meat will then stay on the shell and loosen from the meat. It's really tough and difficult to get it off otherwise. (Like I did, with a veggie peeler).


I couldn't help but laugh at how the video absolutely had to show us the guy actually opening the refridgerator, opening the freezer, putting the coconut in, closing the freezer, and closing the refridgerator. Then a black screen with "Take it from fridge" for unnecessarily long before doing the same process in reverse All this, when they could have just kept it as simple as just displaying the first text, saying "Keep the coconut in deep freezer for 12 hours before cooking".
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